TrainWeb Dome Car Photos
Photos of the Amtrak Dome Cars.
As of 2002, Amtrak has sold two of their three remaining full-length dome cars. 9302 River View and
10030 Mountain View are now owned by American Orient Express, and will be refurbished for use on the AOE
train. Amtrak still owns 10031 Ocean View, and is currently using it in special train service. It may or
may not appear again in revenue service in a single-level trainset on Amtrak's Pacific Surfliner (formerly
San Diegan) route.
The following are full-length dome cars currently operating on the Amtrak San Diegans route.
These dome cars are used in place of the cafe car and can appear on any Amtrak San Diegan
train at any time of the day. They are not used on any specific train number nor at any set
time of the day. It appears to be just a matter of luck if one of these dome cars ends up
on the train that you ride. You do not need to make a purchase from the cafe to sit in the
dome. They are open to all passengers: regular coach passengers as well as
business class (custom class, pacific class, first class) passengers.
Presently, you can even go direct to the dome when you board the train. You do not have to
wait for your ticket to be punched. The conductor will punch your ticket right at your seat
in the dome car! It does not cost extra to ride in the dome.
All 3 full-length dome cars were in operation on 3 different Amtrak San Diegan trainsets
on Thursday, April 13, 2000.
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These dome cars were in the Amtrak Phase III or earlier paint scheme. They are all being
repained to Phase IV and renumbered. I believe they were all in the 9300 series of numbers
while in service for Amtrak and before being renumbered. The Mountain View has been
renumbered to 10030, the Ocean View from 9300 to 10031, and the final one from 9302 to 10032.
I'm not sure, but I think the origin of the refurbishment and renumbering of these cars was Mountain
View's role in the final run of train 36, Amtrak's eastbound Desert Wind. It was originally on the train only because
it was deadheading to from Los Angeles to Chicago, but it turned into a lounge for VIPs on board! After its
sucessful role as a VIP lounge, perhaps it ocurred to Amtrak that these dome cars should become official Amtrak
business cars (beautifully restored rolling stock that is used for important business matters)! The reason I
know these are now business cars is the fact that only business cars are assigned a 5-digit number beginning with 100--.
Also, it would make sense that Amtrak has been refurbishing these cars -- they want them to look as good
as they did 50 years ago! After all, ever heard of Amtrak holding meetings in Horizon cars? I think not! So,
any Amtrak passenger who has the priviledge of traveling in one of these full-length dome cars should consider
themself very lucky! Not only have these cars been restored to the standards of Amtrak's highest executives, they
also afford a better view and a nicer atmosphere then any other cars on short-distance trains! Actually, the only lounge
cars in Amtrak's fleet that are better than the dome cars are the Pacific Parlour Cars. But the Parlour Cars are only
available to First Class passengers on the Coast Starlight, but even someone paying $10 to go from Irvine to Oceanside in coach
can utilize the dome cars! Although each of the dome cars were given names under their original Great Northern ownership, the
only one that formally retained its name was Mountain View. So, despite the fact that Ocean View
and River View were never really renamed, you will not find any markings on those cars indicative of
the original names.
The photos below show some of the full-length dome cars before and after being repainted and
renumbered. Matt Melzer took the photos of the full-length dome car 9302 that is still in
the Amtrak Phase III paint scheme.
360 x 360 Immersion Photos:
One End Of The Inside Of A Dome Car
10030 Mountain View /
10031 Ocean View /
9302 River View
More 9302 Photos
Set #1 /
The following is reposted here with permission from Roy Wullich:
> Of the 6 ex-GN full domes built by Budd in 1955 there are only 3 that
> survive in Amtrak service. The cars originally built as GN 1390-1395
> all carried "View" series names. All of them went to Amtrak and
> became Amtrak 9360-9365.
> The 9360 "Glacier View" was later sold/traded to the BN to become
> BNA-24 "Glacier View" and is assigned Amtrak private car number
> The 9361 "Ocean View" was rebuilt with HEP and numbered 9300. It is
> believed that this is or will be the 10031.
> The 9362 is the "Mountain View" and was rebuilt with HEP and
> renumbered 9301. This car is now the 10030 "Mountain View".
> The 9363 "Lake View" was scrapped by Amtrak in 1982. It's OSH
> (outside swing hanger) trucks survive under an SP business car.
> The 9364 "Prarie View" was sold as a shell less trucks to the BN who
> in turn sold it to Princess Tours and after putting over $1m into it
> is now in service in Alaska. It carries the name "Deshka" and entered
> service in 1997.
> The 9365 "River View" was also rebuilt for Autotrain service and with
> the addition of HEP became the 9302. It is believed that this is or
> will be the 10032 if renumbered.
> Roy Wullich June 16, 1999
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