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Amtrak Silver Star / Carolinian / Crescent Journey
October 1 & 2, 1998
Orlando,Florida to Washington,DC
www.trainweb.com/travel/stevelog/sg981001.html
This is the travelogue of my journey with my children and one of their
friends on several Amtrak trains from Orlando, Florida, to Washington, DC,
Thursday, October 1, 1998 through Saturday, October 2, 1998.
04:34 PM ET- OUT THU OCT 01 1998 Orlando FL
04:34 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
If you follow my route plan for this westward trip home, you will see
that it is pretty round-about. The reason for this is that I want to
cover a small distance of rail territory served by Amtrak that I have
never previously traveled. The target stretch of rail is the route of the
Carolinian between Raleigh, North Carolina and Greensboro, North Carolina.
The stations along this route which I have never seen include: Cary,NC;
Durham,NC; and Burlington,NC.
You might also notice that my travels overlap the Amtrak routes of the
Silver Star and Crescent by quite a bit. I did not need to do this to
cover the Amtrak areas that are new to me. However, I wanted to avoid
getting the kids up and changing trains in the wee hours of the morning.
It didn't hurt to stay on the train longer than needed, just as long as
we get off in time to catch the train going the other way.
04:52 PM ET- OUT THU OCT 01 1998 Winter Park FL
04:52 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
Ch 32 (160.590) MP 776.1
05:16 PM ET- OUT THU OCT 01 1998 Sanford FL
05:16 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
Ch 32 (160.590) MP 755.0
05:34 PM ET- IN- THU OCT 01 1998 DeLand FL
05:43 PM ET- OUT THU OCT 01 1998 DeLand FL
05:36 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
We pulled into the DeLand station 2 minutes early, but lost HEP (Head End
Power) as we were pulling in. The trains stopped right at a grade-level
crossing. The Conductor and Engineer agreed to move the train down just
a bit without HEP to clear the intersection. After inspecting the train,
they managed to restore HEP, but I'm not sure they figured out actually
what caused the train to lose HEP.
Ch 32 (160.590) MP 734.7 52 Axles
05:34 PM ET- IN- THU OCT 01 1998 DeLand FL
05:43 PM ET- OUT THU OCT 01 1998 DeLand FL
05:36 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? PM ET- OUT THU OCT 01 1998 Palatka FL
06:24 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
We had dinner reservations for 7 PM but were called into the Dining Car
at about 6:40 PM, 20 minutes early. There were 5 or 6 selections on the
menu plus 2 children's selections. I had the rib roast which I thought
was quite good. Unfortunately, none of the kids thought much of the food.
One of my daughters had the twin mini-hamburgers. She thought it tasted
like hamburger gum. My other daughter had the fried chicken kids meal
which she didn't like either. The friend that they brought along also
had the rib roast, but she thought it was too fatty. The dinners were
served with mashed potatoes and corn on the cob, both of which I thought
were pretty good.
The service in the Dining Car was friendly, prompt and excellent. All of
us noticed that the table seemed rather high relative to the height of
the seats. I thought this might be because the seat cushions are worn out
and they thus leave you sitting lower than if they were still new with
more support.
07:51 PM ET- IN- THU OCT 01 1998 Jacksonville FL
07:51 PM ET- is the scheduled arrival time.
10:36 PM ET- OUT THU OCT 01 1998 Jacksonville FL
08:16 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
We stopped outside the station at 7:51 PM, our scheduled arrival time,
and then backed the train into the station. They closed the cafe/lounge
car for cleaning and restocking. They invited passengers to get out and
stretch their legs but reminded the passengers that the train waits for
no one and they should not leave the side of the train.
Looks like we made up any time that we lost and arrived into Jacksonville
pretty much on time. However, at about 8:30 PM we were informed of a
private train derailment in Jesup, Georgia, 91 miles north of here.
Although this train does not stop in Jesup, it does go on those tracks.
Thus, we are stuck in Jacksonville until it is known that the tracks are
clear and it is safe to proceed along those rails. The announcement over
the P.A. said that several people were injured and that CSX officials were
on the way to the site of the derailment to evaluate the extent of the
damage and how long it will take to restore rail traffic on that route.
We were also told that this will not be just a 15 minute or even an hour
delay. Thus, we could be here for many hours!
My guess is that they will bus us the rest of the way if it is determined
that the delay will be more than a few hours. I've got some safety factor
in our schedule. To keep according to plan, we just need to be into
Richmond, Virginia before 12:37 PM tomorrow. In worst case, since our
northbound movement on the Silver Star (Train #92) overlaps our southbound
movement on the Carolinian (Train #79), we could just board the Carolinian
at Raleigh, North Carolina. In that case, we just need to get to Raleigh
by 4:22 PM tomorrow afternoon. Since the train we are in now was expected
to get to Raleigh by 5:44 AM, I think 8 hours and 38 minutes of slack in
our schedule should be enough to work our way around this problem!
09:45 PM - Latest Word:
Looks like we are going to get off easy so far! Over the P.A. System they
announced that we are going to hang in here for about another hour and
twenty minutes. Then, we are going to go on by train to Jesup, Georgia.
At Jesup, we will get off and board buses to Savannah, Georgia. Once we
get to Savannah, Georgia, we will reboard a train for the remainder of
the journey. My guess is that what Amtrak has arranged is to swap
passengers between our northbound Silver Star and the southbound Silver
Palm. The Silver Palm is due into Savannah at 11:14 PM. Since it can't
get any further south, it makes sense that Amtrak would bus passengers in
both directions around the derailment to swap passengers between the two
trains and get everyone on their way.
They are taking the express cars off the train. That makes sense. Since
this train will be heading south again, they don't want those express
cars going back south. The express cars will just have to wait here in
Jacksonville until a northbound train can get through. Too bad they
can't bus the freight, too! Actually, they could take the roadrailer
compatible truck bodies off and drive them around the derailment, but
I don't know if Savannah is equipped to place these trucks back onto the
northbound train.
10:36 PM - Latest Word:
Finally we are on our way again, running 2 hours and 20 minutes late!
If we don't get any further behind schedule, we will be into Raleigh at
8:04 AM. Chances are, with the bus transfer and all, we will probably
fall further behind schedule. I'm going to tell the Car Attendant that
we will be getting off in Raleigh rather than Richmond. It will be too
close a call for Richmond, while getting off in Raleigh will give us
enough time to grab a meal and look around the city. I think the kids
will enjoy spending more time in the city and less on the train anyway.
This didn't work out too well. I got confirmation that what I had guessed
at is exactly what Amtrak planned to do. Our Train #92, the Silver Star,
and Train #89, the Silver Palm, would be swapping passengers. The Silver
Star would turn at Jesup, Georgia and become the Silver Palm. The Silver
Palm would turn at Savannah, Georgia and become the Silver Star.
We arrived into Jesup, Georgia and boarded the buses around 12:30 AM.
The crew directed us to get into Bus #1 and loaded our luggage into that
bus. As we boarded the bus, a crew member told us to sit anywhere after
row #5 as the first 5 rows were reserved for the crew. So, we sat across
in row #6. This was one of the best buses I have seen Amtrak use. There
was plenty of space between each row of seats and the chairs reclined a
good deal.
However, in a short while, another crew member came onboard and asked us
who told us to get on this bus. We explained everything, but this crew
member had a new story. Now this was entire bus was to be for the crew
only! Thus, we had to get out of the bus and transfer to another bus. The
other bus was not as nice as the first bus and we could not get 4 seats
together. We had to split up into 2 groups of 2.
03:00 AM ET- IN- FRI OCT 02 1998 Savannah GA
10:25 PM ET- is the scheduled arrival time.
03:30 PM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Savannah GA
10:30 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
The buses didn't get started until 1:30 AM and didn't arrive into
Savannah, Georgia until 3 AM. We all got about an hour sleep on the bus.
When we got off the bus, we had to find the original bus that we had
boarded in order to retrieve our luggage. On the bus I had heard that
some people had received refunds for their sleeping car accommodations.
Evidently the Silver Palm only has one Viewliner Sleeping Car where the
Silver Star had two of them. Thus, some people would have to complete the
trip in coach. I wasn't looking forward to doing that with the kids.
However, I guess the Conductor had already gone through the train and
determined which passengers would have to do without a Sleeping Car Room
and we were not one of them, fortunately.
We hurried to our Sleeping Car, but there was nobody there to help us
board. The kids and I had to lift the 4 heavy suitcases, backpacks, and
other bags onboard ourselves. Once we did get to our rooms, the Car
Attendant kicked us out as well as all other Sleeping Car passengers.
He ordered us to go to the Dinette or Dining Car to wait until all of
the beds were made.
Everyone was quite upset. People were tired of having such an
unpleasant night, especially considering the cost of sleepers. Everyone
just wanted to get their suitcases into their rooms and go to sleep.
I can understand that the beds had to be made first, but the Car
Attendant had a really bad attitude. Actually, there were now two Car
Attendants in this Sleeping Car since both had transferred with us by bus
but now there was only one Sleeping Car for the two attendants to work.
The other Sleeping Car Attendant was very polite and coordinated the
passengers in a very reasonable manner, quite unlike the first Car
Attendant that was just ordering everyone around. The first Car Attendant
wanted to keep everyone out of the Sleeping Car until all the beds were
made. The other Sleeping Car Attendant let people go to their rooms as
soon as their particular rooms were all ready. Once we did get into our
rooms, around 3:30 AM, we did fall asleep pretty quickly.
04:46 AM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Denmark SC
11:49 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
06:37 AM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Columbia SC
01:10 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? AM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Camden SC
01:51 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
08:38 AM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Hamlet NC
03:17 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
09:10 AM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Southern Pines NC
03:58 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
10:30 AM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Raleigh NC
05:44 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
We woke up around 9 AM, changed our clothes, packed up, and got
off the train when it arrived into Raleigh around 10:30 AM. I did not
like the attitude nor service provided by our Car Attendant at all. This
was one of those very rare occasions where I did not feel a tip was
deserved and did not offer one. Even if I had wanted to offer one, I would
have had a difficult time giving him one as he ran off immediately upon
getting us off the train. I would not at all be surprised if this
particular Car Attendant is used to not getting tips!
Additional Information:
Onboard Staff:
Conductor: C.E.Wallace (Orlando,FL)
Consist:
???--- Genesis Locomotive
1248-- Baggage Car
2510-- Dorm Lounge - Pacific Patrol
62038- Viewliner Sleeping Car (9211) Spring View
62041- Viewliner Sleeping Car (9210) Summit View
8502-- Dining Car - Silver Cuisine
28015- Amfleet Dinette
25083- Amfleet Coach (9240)
25011- Amfleet Coach (-92-)
25064- Amfleet Coach
25006- Amfleet Coach
410027 AMTZ roadrailer compatible car
plus 4 more express freight cars
Amtrak Carolinian - Train #79
04:12 PM ET- IN- FRI OCT 02 1998 Raleigh NC
04:12 PM ET- is the scheduled arrival time.
04:55 PM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Raleigh NC
04:22 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
Ch 66 (161.100)
The train arrived right on schedule into Raleigh at 4:12 PM.
Unfortunately, there was some sort of medical emergency on the train and
everyone was delayed from boarding until the paramedics could get onboard.
Once the paramedics assessed the situation, they brought in a stretcher.
The medical problem was in the regular coach car in front of the Custom
Class (Carolina Club Class) car. The crew went ahead and had us board
along with a few other Custom Class passengers while sending all the other
regular coach passengers to board toward the front of the train, away from
the medical situation.
I think we lost our dispatching slot due to the medical problem. We had
to wait for a while before we could leave Raleigh even after the person
with the medical problem had been removed from the train. We left Raleigh
33 minutes late.
Carolina Club Service is pretty nice, but it is more similar to Custom
Class than what is called "Club Class" on the Northeast Corridor. Also,
it does show up on your ticket as "Custom Class" rather than "Club Class."
The "Carolina Club Service" includes pillows, complimentary beverage,
newspaper, video and audio programming. There are earphone jacks, channel
selectors and volume controls at each seat. Channels 1 and 2 played music
while Channel 3 played the sound track to the movie. Color TV monitors
were mounted in the luggage space above about every 3 seat. From most
seats, 2 or 3 of the monitors can be seen fairly clearly. They played one
movie after another during our trip. I accepted the free headphones, but
used them on my railroad radio scanner instead since I could not easily
find what I did with my own earphones.
The Car Attendant was excellent. He brought us all a fresh set of earphones
very quickly along with pillows. He explained to each person how to use
the headsets and also told us that we can get free non-alcoholic beverages
in the cafe car by just presenting our Custom Class ticket before we
ordered.
However, even though the Car Attendant was very friendly and animated, he
did seem to get a bit excited that our ticket indicated that we were
suppose to have gotten on at Richmond instead of Raleigh. The Conductor
didn't seem excited about it at all and didn't mention a word about it.
We explained the situation of the derailment and late train as to why
we had to change trains in Raleigh instead of Richmond.
The three children went down to the cafe car to play cards in there. When
we boarded, we were able to get 2 sets of 2 seats each one in front of the
other. They didn't have any facing sets of seats in the car nor did they
have 2 sets of 2 seats across the aisle from each other available. Thus,
the kids would find it a lot easier to play cards in the cafe car by all
sitting at the same table.
Just as luck would have it, without even looking, I sat at a seat with an
electrical outlet. However, not thinking, I left my AC power cord in the
bags that we had checked! Normally I don't check any bags, but we had a
lot of luggage with us and there isn't much room onboard these Amfleet
coaches to store luggage. All the luggage that we were carrying would
definitely not fit above the seat.
While on the topic, we actually had a bit of a problem with all that
luggage even in the Viewliner Sleeping Cars. Each of us had a fairly large
pull suitcase and a backpack. Plus, the girls had picked up a few stuffed
animals at Disneyworld. Each Viewliner Sleeping Room can comfortably
accommodate one suitcase and one smaller bag without any problem at all.
But, we brought to our rooms more than double that! We did find that we
could put one large suitcase in the high shelf in each room along with
a smaller bag. The second suitcase we placed on the small shelf by the
TV set in each room and then put the wall strap through the suitcase handle
to keep the suitcase from falling on anyone in case of sharp bumps.
05:10 PM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Cary NC
04:36 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
05:38 PM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Durham NC
05:03 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
MP 43.9 Ch 56 (160.950)
06:22 PM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Burlington NC
05:48 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
07:00 PM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Greensboro NC
06:34 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
07:19 PM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 High Point NC
06:48 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? PM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Salisbury NC
07:26 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? PM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Kannapolis NC
07:46 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? PM ET- OUT FRI OCT 02 1998 Charlotte NC
08:21 PM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
Amtrak Crescent - Train #20
??:?? AM ET- OUT SAT OCT 03 1998 Charlotte NC
01:12 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? AM ET- OUT SAT OCT 03 1998 Salisbury NC
01:58 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? AM ET- OUT SAT OCT 03 1998 High Point NC
02:39 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? AM ET- OUT SAT OCT 03 1998 Greensboro NC
03:27 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? AM ET- OUT SAT OCT 03 1998 Danville VA
04:29 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? AM ET- OUT SAT OCT 03 1998 Lynchburg VA
05:40 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? AM ET- OUT SAT OCT 03 1998 Charlottesville VA
06:53 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? AM ET- OUT SAT OCT 03 1998 Culpeper VA
07:45 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? AM ET- OUT SAT OCT 03 1998 Manassas VA
08:19 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? AM ET- OUT SAT OCT 03 1998 Alexandria VA
09:05 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.
??:?? AM ET- OUT SAT OCT 03 1998 Washington DC
09:33 AM ET- is the scheduled departure time.